Monday, November 22, 2010

Mango had another seizure - by Mango Momma


Many of my our readers live with or have lived with seizure dogs. Me? I had grown complacent as Mango's first seizure was some months ago, but last night he had another one.

First, I want to tell you that as of now, he is perfectly fine and resting comfortably after enjoying his breakfast. Last night (or I suppose this morning) I was awakened around 3AM by little Dexter running into the bedroom (usually a sign that Dex is having a potty emergency). As I staggered to the back door I could hear Mango moving and initially thought he was just dreaming, but something sounded different. I turned on the lights to see him in a full blown seizure, foaming, thrusting his legs, and having emptied his bladder. Dexter wanted OUT and I was happy to oblige.

Focusing on Mango, I realized that I had forgotten just about everything I learned about seizures when he had his first one. Everything except to stay away from him and talk to him. It couldn't have gone on for more than 30 seconds after I got up but it seemed like forever.

He eventually stopped and lay there, quiet, then brought his head up. He responded to the sound of my voice and after a minute or two got up and started staggering around. He was very disoriented and frightened and did not want me to approach. I turned on all the lights in the house. He was pacing from room to room and even going into rooms like the bathroom and bedroom which are off limits. This made him even more frightened as he found himself trapped behind the bed or falling down on the slippery bathroom floor. I would find him and call to him. He responded by approaching, but wanted me to walk away so he could follow and he stayed several feet away from me. I just kept talking to him and turned away which seemed to calm him a bit.

This went on for about 20 minutes during which time he drank a ton of water. Dexter came back in and was very growly. He did not want Mango anywhere near him. For the next 40 minutes Mango continued to pace. Eventually he would come over to me, but when I reached to pat him he shied away. Finally he seemed to be coming to. He went to sniff Dexter and Mango's tail, which had been firmly between his legs, was wagging, and Dex held still but did not growl.

Around 4 AM Mango finally settled on his bed and I settled on the couch. Two hours later, we all woke up and everything was as if nothing had ever happened. Now he is resting and his bed cover is in the laundry and the Clean and Green is doing it's work on the carpet.

I tried to write down the details of yesterday, but nothing out of the ordinary. In fact it was a really good day. He had an excellent walk, did some training, enjoyed a bone, played tennis ball, got cuddles, and took some naps.

I will note that Dex has been growly with Mango for the past several days. Could it have been something he sensed? And last night, Dexter would not settle down for bed. Mango was in his usual spot in front of Dexter's couch, Dexter would get into bed, then jump down and come to me, but not really want to be patted, he just couldn't settle. Did Dexter know what was coming? It certainly would not be unheard of.

Of course this has negated the sweet smelling guy I brought home from the beauty parlor on Friday. Mango is pretty stinky having peed himself. I still need to figure out how to fix that problem since the outside water is turned off and all we have in the bathroom is a tiny shower stall and if Mango is in the bathroom there isn't room for anybody else anyway.

My plan is to take my cue from Mango and continue as normal. He seems fine, so I have to be as well. Go to work, come home. Little Dex has developed a hot spot on his face. I will need to take him to the vet to get that clipped since it is all oozy and nasty and needs to air out and I can't get him still enough to do it myself. Might need some antibiotics as well. Hopefully not a cone since loyal readers will recall that Mango is terrified of Dexter in a cone and thinks he is a monster that must be driven from the estate. Sigh.

I do remember that the emergency room vets, regular vet, online forums, and readers all said that until seizures become regular occurrences, there isn't anything that can be done medically. His last seizure was on a Thursday night around 10 PM, this one on a Monday morning around 3 AM. Nothing comes to mind that would have triggered either one. I had thought the original one could have been brought on by eating plum pits from the yard, but that is unlikely to be the case this time. The plums and their pits are long gone.

Don't be worried if we don't post for a couple of days. It won't mean anything bad is happening, just that we are busy getting ready for Thanksgiving. Since Mango is already scheduled to go back to the special vet tomorrow night, I will likely get more advice there. He will be seeing his good friend (and mine), Dr. Rogers who transferred to that practice from our regular vet and I know that I can talk to her (unlike odd other vet who was a very good doctor to Mango but not such a good listener or communicator for me).

Hug your puppies and spare a good thought for Mango. Here is a happy making photo of him I took on yesterday's walk.



Mango Momma

94 comments:

Jen said...

Oh dear, Mango, Dexter and Mango Mamma!! Thank goodness you have a vet app't today and I hope this helps give you some answers/direction to go in. And, we are certainly sending hugs, licks and tail wags from here!

If there's anything we can do, please let me know!! Hang in there!!

Jen and the Black Dog Crew

giantspeckledchihuahua said...

Oh! Mango! I hope you are ok! Siezures are such PITA (major understatement!) Seems like PeeWee is looking out for you even if he doesn't know how to tell you. It took me awhile to figure out Stumpy knew what was coming and how to tell me.

Lola said...

Oh, we'll be thinking of Mango non-stop no matter what else we're doing. We have our paws crossed that the special vet will have some suggestions and maybe medication now that it's happened twice. With a dog as relentlessly huge as Mango I don't know how "regular" they want to let this get.

It does sound like Dexter could tell something was coming on. That might be useful in the future, for predicting problems.

lotsa licks, Lola

Gus said...

Mango Momma, Mango Man and Dexter:

We will keep you all in our thoughts, and are grateful to Dexter Dude for sounding the warning. And yes, muzzer knows a hooman who has a seizure Dog (yellow Lab) and the Dog is a tremendous help to him.

We have a couple of pet places where you can take your doggie and either bathe him yourself or help the staff, or you can drop them off and hide out in the leashes while they get washed. We have used them for Teka, who is relatively smooth, but not for me, because I need too much brushing. Maybe one would work for Mango? Except he might be stressed out by that experience, and stress can trigger the seizure monster.

You can talk to Miss Snicker's sweet Mama, who knows lots and loves to share info.

kisses
Gussie n teka

Minna Krebs said...

Oh my dear Mango.....and momma!

We were horrified to hear he had another seizure! It sounds like momma did everything just right to look after him, butt it must be such a helpless feeling! It sounds like the Labradude has become your personal paramedic! Good dog

We will most certainly keep RH in our thoughts

Healing Hugs
MinnaK

Priscilla said...

Hi Mango, Mango Momma and Dexter, I'm so sorry to hear about the nasty seizures that Mango had gone through. Mango is definitely in our thoughts all the time and hope the vet visit is a good one.

I think Dexter might have sensed something strange about Mango earlier. They usually have some special abilities and can sense the danger or others. He was a good boy that he led you to Mango in the wee morning.

Our paws and fingers are crossed here too!

Mack said...

We were so hoping that was just a one time deal. We are sending good vibes and saying lots of prayers for the RH.

Sugars,
Mack and mom

The 'splorin' Wolfies said...

i believe Dexter is absolutely picking up early cues from Mango. Even those few days before Dexter knows something is up. Absolutely. there is nothing to do but carry on and love them while we have them

Clive said...

Poor Mango, Momma and Dexter - that was another terrible experience for you all. We hope the vet can give you some advice when you see him.

We're sure Dexter did realise what was happening with Mango before the seizure - one of the dogs from Guide Dogs here works now in the UK as a seizure alert dog for a man with eplipesy and diabetes. The dog can alert the man just before he has a seizure so the man who safely lie down and not hurt himself.

Keeping our paws crossed for Mango.

best wishes from us all
Clive & Co

Corbin said...

Paws are crossed and we'll be praying for the Mango!!!
-Corbin

NORWOOD UNLEASHED said...

Mango
I saw your momma's email and came to read you post. Oh no. Not only are the seizures themselves horrible but the not much we can do about them is too. I hope Dr. Rogers can give momma some insight and/or be a trained ear. I agree Peewee although a dork probably sensed something. I know you feel fine now but that is truly scary.
norwood

Bouncing Bertie said...

Oh Mango and Mango Momma, we are so sorry to hear about this seizure, but glad that Mango seems to have recovered. We do hope that the vet can do something to help. It was (Gail says) hard enough to cope with a wee chap like Hamish have a fit, with a full sized dog it must be so much more difficult. Our thoughts are with you. Extra pats from us for Mango and not so stupid Dexter today please.
Best wishes,
Bertie and Gail.

Ruby Bleu said...

Oh no....we will certainly be thinking good thoughts for you all. Thank goodness Dexter came to get you and imagine, he might have actually sensed something was wrong too.

Hang in there...Michele & Ruby

Two Crazy Coaches said...

Oh Mango!! Glad to hear you're doing better this morning! I don't think your mama likes being scared like that! Lots of get well slobbers and kisses from us.

Lotsa love,
Flash and Ollie

Tucker said...

Oh Mango! It's a good thing you have a good brudder like Dexter. He is helping you out by letting your Momma know something is wrong.

I sure hope you get better soon Mango.

woof - Tucker

Frankie Furter said...

Dear Friends,
Frankie's Mom here. I am so sorry that Mango has had another sizure. I must agree with you and others that Dexter alerted you very early on. You have a real treasure there with him. Trust what he is telling you.. even if he gives you a day or to advance warning.
I want to say that you did EVERYTHING EXACTLY RIGHT. Mango is very lucky to have someone with such a calm (even though I am sure you didn't think you were) and level headed person there for him when he needed you the most.
Maybe you could use a damp washcloth dipped in some water with baking soda in it to just Wipe off the effected area. Mango would probably think you were just grooming him...
It has been quite a while since the first one. I think that is a good thing.
You will ALL be in our hearts and prayers. Keep us posted.

pam said...

Our prayers are being sent and great good thoughts and huggies to our Mango (and momma.)

Bobo, Meja and Mommy

iheartsnark said...

Paul Mitchell makes some good pet shampoos, specifically a "dry shampoo" that is a foam. You put it on, let it sit for a little while, then brush out. Any salon that carries Paul Mitchell products should also carry the pet products.

Sending Mango healing vibes!

Mimi and CC Cabana said...

Rats, so sorry about Mango. You are a good level-headed Mango mama, though, and that's the best thing any dog can have. What a puzzle. Maybe now you will have advance notice if another one happens, since Dexter seems to be giving signs. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving at your neck of the woods!

Raymond and Busby said...

Ugh! Poor Mango and poor all of you. We feel badly, we had a kitten who had seizures but Mango in that state is 100x worse. We agree with the others, Mango Mom, sounds like you did everything right. You were calm and stayed with the Mango. We think Dexter did sense something. You guys will all be in our thoughts, we love you.

Agnes B Bullock said...

Prayers headed your way, Mango!

Kasha The Dainty Great Dane said...

Oh no my friend...I'm so sorry you are having the sickies right now. How scary for you, your family and Dexter. Your mom will take the best possible care of you and I'll know you will be feeling better soon.

Happy Thanksgiving to all of you and maybe your mom will give you a slice of Turkey Mango.

AARF Kasha the Dainty Great Dane

jen said...

Sending good thoughts Mango's way!
We hope you are ok big man:)

Kristine said...

I'm so glad he seems to have recovered. My best friend's dog, a corgi/BC cross gets seizures on the regular and they still can't figure out the cause either. It's pretty scary.

I will be thinking of Mango and wishing you all well. I hope the vet has some answers for you this time. Take care.

Samantha said...

Oh poor MangoMom... How awful for you to be wakened so early to such a scary scene. Despite that, I suspect that you were very calm as you talked to Mango and let him wander after it was over. I also wonder if some dogs such as Dexter (or all?) sense so much more than we give them credit for. Imagine if we could somehow harness that ability for all sorts of living creatures?! I'm glad to hear that as you posted, Mango was resting after normal breakfasts. I had enjoyed Mango's retrieving movie so much and was totally amazed that he could do that. So many retrievers won't bring back an object to a human! I look forward to hearing about what Dr. Rogers has to say. So sorries about this 2nd event. Give pats and belly rubs to both Mango and Pea.
xoxo
Sammie, Avalon and Mom

♥♥♥ The OP Pack ♥♥♥ said...

Oh, Mango, Mango - good think Mom didn't do all that Sunday housework. Seriously we hope you are doing OK today. We bet you will be a bit on the tired side. We have never been able to fix on a single trigger for Phantom's seizures. Any chance the first one was preceded by a bath or a trip somewhere "different". It sounds like Dexter definitely did sense something.

As we have said before, Mom has found gentle talking to the dog and using his name a lot seems to be the most reassuring.

Wish we had better answers for you, but we are glad he is doing better today.

Woos ~ Phantom, Thunder, and Ciara

Texas The Doxie said...

Oh how scary!! I hope this is not to be a regular occurrence for poor Mango and you!!

~ Erin,Bubbles,Texas and Pompei

Mollie Jo and Bobo said...

Mango and the momma we are so sorry to hear Mango had another seizure. Take a nice long rest today buddy! Get better. Maybe you can certify Dexter as your service dog. He can wear a spiffy vest and every thing. I guess having a bothersome brother is ok sometimes like in this case.

Wags and Licks,
Mollie JO & Bobo

Pearl said...

Oh Mango, this is not news that I wanted to hear this morning. I am so sorry!

Your momma is very smart and I know you are in the best hands. I am so glad that all seems well this morning. I will be thinking of you, buddy.

xoxox
Pearl

Ludo van Doggy said...

oh dear! I so hope this be another one off and will not happen again. It must be very very frightening!

Glad Mango be ok now. I hope it continues.
~lickies, Ludo

Dillon said...

Mango Dude!

That goodness for your brudder! I hope you feel better soon and you can chew on my chicken legs anytime if that makes you feel better. My best furiend (other than my cuzin Levi) is Zoe a huge St. Bernard. I don't mind playing with the big kids at all. feel better soon - PeeWee can't have all that turkey.

Dillon

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Randi said...

Oh MANGO!

The only wiggling & foaming I want you to be doing is when you are excited & wagging your tail & getting slobbers all over the place from chewing a bone..no more of this other stuff OK!!!

My mom is gonna email your mom...Please give her lots & lots of hugs & cuddles Mango...She loves you very very much...

Love & Licks,
Randi
PS. GOOD BOY DEXTER! I always knew you were a great little bro! *SIGH* My Cublet

Hound Girl said...

I am so sorry to hear about Mango, we will keep our paws crossed and send good vibes.

Fred and Haylie do the same thing when one of them is sick or injured - in regards to the growling and not wanting to be around each other. I can always tell when someone is getting sick or is injured or currently sick. Its like they know and want to be left alone - its strange but they are normally the first ones to lead me on to something is wrong.

Kari

Dozer and Coop said...

We're rootin' for you big guy and Mum says she is putting you on her prayer list (actually I think it is you and your Mum and maybe Dexter too). Just keep that positive outlook and forge forward.

Lovies, Dozer and Cooper

Ms. ~K said...

Poor Mango (and Mom),
What a terrifying experience...
I was holding my breath while reading the entire post...

Yes, I too believe Dex sensed the on-coming seizure...

Sending comforting, positive thoughts and a big hug,
Kit

Deetz said...

Mango Buddy
It's been awhile..For some reason you were on my mind, miles away I could hear your calling...Alot has been going on around our home, that is the reason for our lack of visits, but we are okay. We miss you and for some reason felt the need to check on you....We are here now. I remember Gizmo's first seizure and momma crying, please don't you die on me", but then mom kinda just became a nurse and dealt with Gizmo like a mother to a child. A mother's touch is so comforting, isn't Mango? It will be okay Mango, although I am miles away....all us furry friends have a string attached to each other...a golden string, that when one of us is in trouble...we feel a tug..atleast that is what I believe..I am here now...we are all here for you. We love you Mango...your the Man!
Deetzy and kids

Ina in Alaska said...

Sending hugs to all of you. We had a seizure dog, our late Suzie (white toy poodle) who lived with her condition for many years successfully with the help of phenobarb. I know firsthand the helplessness of watching your sweet pup seizure and the aftermath. I know Mango will be ok! And Dexter too, sweet boy xoxox

Barbara said...

Oh, poor Mango! I'm glad he has a mom that knows how to take care of him and not let him feel embarrassed!

It does sound like Dexter does have a sixth sense about these things - I'd take cues from him too.

Prayers and Power of the Paw activated!

Piappies World said...

Hello Mango Momma & Mango,

We are keeping our paws and have you in our prayers. We believe that Dexter is indeed looking after you too.

Good that you have a trip to the Dr. V.E.T and we hope that you come home with good news. Please be ok.

We send you our healing vibes.

Love,
Piappies Fudgie, Princess, Frappie, Mocha, Sugar, Wai-Pai & Wai-Max

Sierra Rose said...

Oh Mango. We'll be thinking of you. Keep an eye and sniff on your pal there, Dexter :)

Hugs and snaggle-tooth kisses,
Sierra Rose

Sue said...

How scary for both you and Mango. We've only had experience with one seizure and it was terrifying. The strangest things can trigger them.

It sounds like Dexter is a natural seizure dog and if you can learn to understand what he's trying to tell you, he may help you anticipate these events.

We'll all be thinking of Mango and wishing his well.

Butchy, Katie, Ruby, Sylvester, Scuby, Hootie said...

Oh, Mama forgot to mention in her email, yes, Mango will drink like a horse after the seizure. Also after the seizures, sometimes dogs are partially blind. Since Mango was still stumbling around, try to keep him in one room if you can. Sending lots of wirey zen his way.
Wirey Hugs, Purrz & Licks,
Butchy, Katie, Ruby, Sylvester, Scuby & Hootie

Maggie and Mitch said...

We are sending lots of AireZen your way, Mango. We hope you don't have any more seizures - ever again!

Love ya lots
Maggie and Mitch

Scruffy, Lacie and Stanley's Place said...

Oh Mango...

The time immediately following a seizure is called a post-ictal state...the behavior he exhibited afterwards is classic post seizure. Poor guy...poor you and Dexter too. It surely seems as if Dexter sensed it coming; dogs are so intuitive. As for the bath or lack thereof, there are many kinds of waterless shampoos and wipes that can be found at PetSmart. Vinegar will neutralize urine odor, but you'd have to dilute it pretty weakly and I'd rinse it off from the skin with some wet washrags. Ask the vet if that can be used...

We are thinking of you totally here and sending healing love to Mango...I'm sure it was terrifying....

Hugs and tons of love,

Mumsie and the kids....

Jake of Florida said...

Oh Mango Mamma and Mango Man, We feel so bad that you've had another scary seizure -- all the worse because of the hour and awakening to poor Mango's frightening moves.

We so hope it doesn't happen again -- and that the special vet can provide some good information.

Wirey love to all of you, including the Dexter,

Jake and Just Harry -- and our Mom, Joan

Elyse said...

That sounds scary!! A friend of mine used to have a dog with epilepsy. Sounds like Dexter knew what was going on! We hope you guys all have a great Thanksgiving and that the seizures don't come back!

Elyse and Riley

Kari in WeHo said...

Oh dear I sure hope everything is all better and you have a good holiday

Kari
http://dogisgodinreverse.com/

Maggie Mae said...

Mango,

Mom and me had to stop by today and let you know that we are thinking of you. I am sending you puppy prayers AND if it helps you to feel better I will let you put my head in your mouth! :)

Woofs and Healing Licks,
Maggie Mae

Blessings from mom

mayziegal said...

Oh, MangoMomma. It sounds like that was skeery for everybuddy - you, Mango and Dexter! Gosh, I don't know what to say except I am sending Mango my most pawerful brindle wishes and my mom is sending you lots of hugs.

I would most definitely be listening to Dexter from now on. I think perhaps he's assigned himself as Mango's pawsonal seizure alert dog.

I hope you all have a very happy (and seizure-free) Thanksgiving!

Wiggles and wags,
Mayzie

Those Elgin Pugs said...

We are all here thinking of Our Mango Pug and sending love and keeping him in our prayers~

Anakin says he thinks "his Big Advendures" definitely sensed his "big selfs" seizure.

Please keep us updated and give Mango our love!!

Hugs to the sweet Mango Momma too~
Katy & Anakin Mini Mastiff Man

rottrover said...

Oh Mango & Momma. We don't really have anything to add to what's already been said above. Just sending healing, calm paw power thoughts to you all.

As for Dexter's hot spot, I found "Dermoplast" at the pharmacy - its a spray on "antibacterial pain relieving spray" which worked really well and quickly on one of our hot spots. It seemed to dry it out fast as well as stop the itching...

Feel better, big dude.

Twix said...

I can't imagine how scary that is. I'm so sorry Mango had another seizure. Sounds like Dexter might be more of an assistance dog to Mango rather than a pest ;o) You all get some rest today and Twix is sending her extra specail doxie healing sun rayz your way!
Hugs,
Twix's Mom

MurphyDog said...

a relentlessly huge seizure for a relentlessly huge Mango. That does sound scary. Hopefully the specialist betterinarian can help make Mango feel better. Sounds like Dexterdog was a very good labradork brudder though in letting you know what was happening.

Mom 2nd's the vote for the waterless shampoo. Our Petco carries a brand of it that smells quite nice & leaves my fur nice and shiney. Most likely though you'll need to use most of the bottle on someone as reletlessly huge as Mango.

good thoughts & prayers being sent your way from Sandy Eggo,

wags, wiggles & slobbers
Murphydog

Dennis the Vizsla said...

hello mango momma its dennis the vizsla dog hay i am sorry to heer abowt mango having another seezhur!!! we wil be in dennis masachewsits soon and maybe we can stop by the estayt and giv him sum tail wags in persun!!! ok bye

The Army of Four said...

Please give Mango a big Mango-sized hug from us!!! and one for you, too, Mango-mama!!!
He's in our prayers.
Tail wags,
Storms

Tom, Tama-Chan, Sei-Chan and Bibi-Chan said...

From experiences that my friends here have had, it does sound like an epileptic seizure, and, as was mentioned in other comments, some dogs can and do detect seizures before they happen, There was one such dog featured in that PBS documentary shown earlier this year about assistance dogs. Any such behaviour by Dexter should be taken very seriously.

There is good medication for epilepsy in dogs and your vet will doubtless be able to tell you when and if would be a good time to start.

Hang in there, Mango Momma.

#1

doyle and mollie said...

oh mango we are sending lotsa pawsitive energies your way you have us worried big boy but we know your family are full of loves for you so you'll be ok - loves and licks xxxx

Wild Dingo said...

WTF? I'm so upset. I sure hope the vet has something to say about this. They are scary. i can only imagine that it takes a while to recover from a siezure. it sounds like dex knew. (to me anyway). it is documented that human's have aura's before seizures that range from visual to olfactory senses. I wouldn't be surprised if Dex becomes your best predictor in helping you deal with these if they become a future occurance. Hopefully they will not. I wonder if there is something that can be done if a person knows a dog is about to get a seizure if dispensing some sort of anti-convulsant medicine will be useful?

Poor Mango. Give him hugs from me and Loki and Juno. Please tell him our Redi-whip is ready for his next assignment for Mango...

woos.
wild dingo

Niamh said...

Mango,

We are thinking of you and our paws are crossed. Please take care of yourself.

Your friends,
Niamh & Ambrose

Roo said...

I'm sorry Mango. Seizures are no fun at all :(

I am very glad that you are feeling better and back to your regular self though now :)

The Roo family is holding the most positive thoughts for you and sending you lots of warm hugs :)

The Roo Family

Molly,Taffy and Monty said...

Oh Mango that sounded like a very long and worrying night for you and your Momma.

We are sending you airezen to help you feel loads better. Paws crossed your special vet can help you.

Molly, Taffy and Monty

The Thuglets said...

Mango we are so sorry to hear what happened. Fits are so awful. We can only imagine how worried your Momma was.

Sending lots of pawsative vibes and all pawscrossed here you are soon all mended. Get well soon mate.

Big Nose Pokes
The Thugletsx

Deetz said...

We did a post about the Golden String...we are so attached in so many ways. We love you Mango Man!
No more seizures, okay? Give your mom big slobbery kissies from me and a big paw hug to Dex...I think he is worried about his Mango.
Happy Holidays my friend.
Deetzy

♥ Sallie said...

Our thoughts are with you! Be well, Mango!

Hugs,

Carol from Down Under said...

Mango Momma, Hope you are ok. Good boy Dexter for getting your mum to help Mango. Sending all the family love from Australia and a big hug to you Momma. Hope the vet has some information to help. I'm sure it will be 'no worries'. Love Carol p.s. hugs to Mango even if you are a bit smelly, I don't care.

Fiona, as typed by Dr. Liz said...

Good work, Dexter! Sounds like you may have another calling in life there, PeeWee! Mango, we'd prefer if you didn't do this - it scares your Mom and all of your friends. However, we are glad to hear that you are doing better today (and are glad to hear that your Mom did bother doing all that cleaning on Sunday!). Take care of yourself, big guy.

*kissey face*
-Fiona and Family

PeeEss: Note from Mom: we had a dog with 'small dog encephalitis' who had seizures, and the first time it happened it scared the hell out of us; after that and much consultation with the vet we figured out what we could do - which was not much, other than make him comfortable with doggie-valium (I can't remember what it was now) after the fact. Obviously, Mango doesn't have the small dog thing going, but hopefully they can give you some suggestions as to how to help him become more comfortable faster if it ever happens again. Hugs to all you.

Lacy said...

To Mango Mama from Rocky mama..wow, it sure is scary..i do beleive that Dexter knows when mango is ready to seize...not many people know that rocky has had 2 seizures..the first one lasted many 15seconds..he pped on himself, but would let me hold him and talk to him..the second one was way longer...and that time he didnt want me or hubby near him..it really scared us that time...he finally after a hr or so came off of it...and he too drank lots of water...the last time he had one he really got himself worked up..barking and pitching a fit at cats outside, plus when we went to the store, he goes nuts if anyone gets near the car...i think that was what brought the last one up..sooo now i try to keep him calm as best as i can..its been since march for the last one...sure hope mango feels better and no more seizures..

b safe,
the hudson furkids..

Oskar said...

We're so sorry that the RH had a terrible seizure. It must be especially scary for Mango Momma.

We are saying healy prayers & sending betterment thoughts to Mango.

Nubbin wiggles & hugs,
Oskar & Pam

Noah said...

Sorry to hear about Mango. You can count on my prayers and thoughts!

A MilShelb Mom said...

We are thinking of you. Enjoy your Thanksgiving and your big puppies!
~Maggie, Milly, and Shelby

Gus, Louie and Callie said...

Oh Mango we are so glad that you are alright for now. Thanks Dex for warning Mom. We hope all goes well with the Vet. Paws crossed for you Mango...

Big Sloppy Kisses
Gus, Louie and Callie

Asta said...

Deew Mango, Dextew and Mango Mama

ALll youw loving fwiends have aweady said all the wise and helpful things. I too think Dextew knew, and that's why he acted the way he did..I'm glad that Mango is westing and feeling fine now and that you get to go see youw nice dogtow so that you can get some mowe peace of mind..You must be exhaustedMango Mama, I hope you get some west too.
We'we so sowwy you had to go thwough this..how fwieghtening fow all of you
We love you
smoochie healing kisses
ASTA and hugs fwom Mommi

Agatha and Archie said...

Oh dear oh dear oh dear,We are sending MAJOR ZEN down the Pike and down route 9..You all must have been sooo frightened... Dexter absolutely sensed it...They say dogs do that in other dogs and in humans as well...Poor Mango....I am glad your Vet appointment was so close to the seizure. Don't forget we are here if you ever need us.. Love PL1 and the A Team

AFSS said...

Mango we are very sorry you had another seizure. They must be very scary. We are sending comforting and healing purrs and lots of positive energy.

Paws crossed your family has a wonderful Thanksgiving.

Honey the Great Dane said...

Oh my God, Mango!! I just saw this now!! I'm so glad you're OK - my heart was in my mouth reading this post!! How awful. Your poor Momma must be beside herself and it must have been so scary for you! I hope the vet will give your human some answers - Hsin-Yi says the "not knowing" is the worst thing, she thinks.

We are thinking of you and sending lots of healing slobbers from far away -

Slobbers,
Honey the Great Dane

Opy - the Original GruffPuppy said...

Sending you all hugs - poor Mango :( And poor Mango Momma :(

Love

Opy

Peppy Sheppys said...

Mango,

Our paws are crossed for you and Mango Momma. We hate the seizure monster and hope he leaves you alone. We know that you are in most capable hands. Now take good care of her, too.

Sheps w/Pep, Otis & Edgrr.

The Thundering Herd said...

So terribly sorry that another seizure has occurred. I wish I had advice, but, thankfully, have never had to deal with this particular issue. But know that paws are crossed and humans are wishing for the best of outcomes.

Painter Pack said...

Thinking and praying. Sending the power of the paw and healing sibe-vibes!

Painter Pack

Mr Koda MD said...

Ma says that your ability to add humour to an otherwise harrowing and exhausting experience is unsurpassed, and she was dorkily giggling trying to imagine the RH and Momma in the bathroom, soap suds everywhere, and of course Dexter being scampered from the estate with his cone...

Best of thoughts to the RH! If only there is a magical solution!

Koda

houndstooth said...

Mango's behavior in the post ictal phase sounds very normal. Treat would usually have all the same symptoms you described, but her seizures lasted upwards of fifteen minutes. She had serious grand mal seizures. In the beginning, it took her much longer to settle than it did later on. She was always very thirsty afterwards, too, but it makes sense when you see how much work their bodies do during a seizure, as well as the fact that often they get very hot, too.

Treat knew before she was going to have a seizure, and she always came to one of us. Then we'd have to help her lay down. Hawk knew when she was going to have one, too. He was always very good with her and stood sentry over her when the seizures hit. Many dogs do have a very nasty reaction to another dog having a seizure, though. It's not uncommon for other dogs to attack a seizing dog. I don't say this to scare you, but to let you know that if Dex is telling you he wants his space from Mango, it's best to give it to him so he doesn't feel "cornered" by a situation that makes him really uncomfortable. I don't remember if you had bloodwork done on him the last time, but my guess is that you did. Definitely talk to your vet about it and keep him aware of the incidents when they happen.

Often stress will trigger seizures. If there's a lot of cleaning and upheaval in your house while you get ready for the holidays, that could upset his apple cart. The more low key you can keep things for the big guy right now, the better!

Carrie, aka Bunny's Mom

Lorenza said...

Mango!
I have my paws crossed for you and I hope it will not happen again. Sure the Vet will tell your mom what is going on.
I agree with the fact that Dexter knew you were not well and alerted your mom.
I hope you had a relaxing day after that.
Take care
Kisses and hugs to you, Dexter and Mom!
Lorenza

Mollys Momma said...

Oh Mango Momma, how awful for you and the boys my heart goes out to you as I know how scary seizures can be suffering from the myself. What a good job Dexter woke you though bless his lovely labraheart. I should imagine it is very scary for him to see Mango like that. I agree with everything Carrie said she is obviously a very wise lady..... a few of my past dogs ahve let me know when I was about to have a wobbly as we call them so I could get myself out of any awkward situations before it hit so maybe Dexter will be your warning bell so to speak for Mango although I so hope that was his last.
You are in our thoughts and prayers and I hope all goes well at the vets.
With Love
Momma Tea
xx x xx

Jan's Funny Farm said...

Oh, poor Mango. Seizures are a terrible experience for all involved at the time. We're glad he's doing better. Dexter very well did know something was going to be happening.

1000 Goldens said...

We love you Mango and Dex. We're so sorry Mango Momma, we can only imagine the stress and worry when it happens. Take care and we wish you a happy thanksgiving!

HoundDogMom said...

Mango, these are not things we like to here from Momma. We do believe that Dexter really does have your best interest at heart. He is giving the signs to Momma to watch you but sometimes we humans can be a little slow. I am sure these are things she will take note of if this should happen again. We pray this will not happen especially while you sleep. Take care and get lots of snuggies. The HoundDogs and HoundDogMom

BRUTUS said...

How scary! I hope I can only have to imagine such a scenario, having to wait helplessly by as things progress. Sending Frenchie kisses to both momma & Mango, hope that the special vet can get to the bottom of things so that neither of you have to go through all that scary stuff ever again!!

Michelle, Brutus & Carmen

Benny and Lily said...

Oh Mango we have all our feets crossed for you
Benny & Lily

Laura, Lance, and Vito said...

Oh Mango, I'm so sorry! Please stop scaring your mom!

CreekHiker / HollysFolly said...

So sorry to read this! Prayers for you and Mango!

Dugan said...

Mango's Mom -- I feel your pain and anguish over Mango's seizures. We had a Golden that suffered from seizures on a regular basis so we know how devasting it is -- you just never get used to it. There are medications that can control the seizures -- I know your vet will guide you. Most of the scenario you described is very similar to what we experienced -- you did all the right things and hopefully Dexter is sensing what is happening, but please be cautious, sometimes the other dog with behave very abnormally when a seizure is occuring. We will keep you in our thoughts and prayers.

TwoSpecialWires said...

Sending much love and all the support we can put on the winds.

xxoo
Jake, Fergi and OurMoma

achieve1dream said...

Awww I am so far behind on reading Mango's blog. I'm glad he's okay. Seizures must be so scary. I'll be sending Mango good thoughts even though this happened a while ago.