Friday, March 25, 2011

Seizure Monster? You Decide.

So this morning I woke up to find that my bed had been moved to the living room next to the couch upon which momma was resting right next to me. Not an entirely unusual occurrence as the DOH sometimes has the sleepy problems and she says that listening to me breath helps her relax and get her rest.

But this time she was all worried and she told me that the seizure monster had come to visit during the night. Huh? How could I have missed that. I was sure she was making it up.

Then she made me watch a movie and sure enough, there I was plain as day and first I was all stiff as a board except for my chompers which were clanking together with a most disturbing sound and then all of a sudden it looked like I was going totally mental fits. I kid you not. Like total spaz time all legs akimbo and foaming at the mouth and, hang on, peeing?

Finally I was shown walking around with a stupid look on my face like my brains weren't in there anymore (OK, I'm going to concede that one because I am big enough to admit that I do often wear that, ahem, vacant expression). But I certainly DO NOT bump into things and get stuck in corners.

NO WAY! I know how clever momma is and that movie was a total fake. I told her, "go ahead and post it on the internets and we'll see what's what." But she said, "Oh no Mango, that is just too disturbing for your pals to see." Yuh, like seeing my head pasted onto Mollie Jo's wee little body or flames shooting out my butt isn't disturbing? As if!

Now I do recall having a dream about eating ice cream and the Pea growling at me. But we all know that was nothing but the night visions because I never ever get ice cream and the Pea would not dare growl at me.

Momma claims I also drank about a gallon of water and to be honest I was feeling a bit, er, full.

But seizure monster? Nope. Because I was feeling right as rain. Just to demonstrate my robustness, I proceeded to give the Pea a good round of bitey face.

Oops, where did the little dude get to now?

Yuh for sure, and does this look like a doggie with sickies? Seriously.

I am unclear how she made the alleged seizure movie, but if being convinced that the seizure monster is lurking means she is going to sleep out on the couch with me again, then I'll go along with it.

Mango Man! Oh yeah!

P.S. From Momma.
Mango had another seizure Thursday night. His first since January 7th. And yes, I do have a movie of one of his seizures which I made to show to my vet but it is not how I want Mango's pals to see him so I am not posting it. If you want to know what a mastiff seizure is like, you can watch a movie by clicking here. WARNING, it might upset you a bit (but I am grateful to the owners who had the courage to post it so that others can see).

The only common thread to his seizures so far is they always happen at night and they always come within an hour of him going to sleep. Other than that, I cannot point to any stress, food, day, time of day, anything that links them together. This one lasted about two minutes. He was pacing and disoriented for an hour afterwards.

A difference this time was that when he did finally lay down, his breathing was labored and he was moaning, but I stroked him and calmed my breathing and eventually we both fell asleep.

Oh to be a dog because Mango has no idea that he has seizures. He woke up happy as could be and Dexter was glad to see him and no longer afraid and growling. All fingers and paws crossed that the monster is gone for a while.


giantspeckledchihuahua said...

I'm really feeling your pain. My experience with canine seizures (two different dogs) was hell. Are seizures common in mastiffs? I'm glad mango woke up feeling good this morning!

A little birdy told me you went to see the Nordude. That was soo nice of you!

Channon said...

I think I've failed to mention that the cocker spaniel we had in my early childhood had seizures, but they came late in her life. I know the first one happened in her sleep, near dawn, because 10 yr. old me awoke to my patient old friend having a shaking fit.

Glad you don't remember it, Mango. Wish that monster would go away and never come back again.

HoundDogMom said...

Mango, we are so sorry that horrible seizure monster came in the middle of the night again. We hope you get to feeling better soon. Sniffs, The HoundDogs

♥♥♥ The OP Pack ♥♥♥ said...

At least it was a long stretch without one. It sounds like they are occurring once Mango is in a very deep sleep. We watched the video and yes, that is very similar to what both Dakota and Phantom have done - very hard to watch. We are sorry you have to go through that with Mango, but so very glad he has YOU to help him through it. Hugs to both of you.

Woos ~ Phantom, Thunder, and Ciara and Mom

Zona said...

I can't bear to watch the video. Brings back too many memories of my dear Ginger. The seizure monster is the WORST!! Does the Mango Man have to go on any medicines? Mom put Ginger on melatonin before she had to go on the Rx meds. It seemed to help for awhile. Poor Mango - I'm glad he doesn't remember them!!!

Sending lots of pawsitive vibes,

rottrover said...

Mango, dude... Glad you woke refreshed and good as new. We see you and Pea have your paws crossed. We have ours crossed for you as well.

Maggie Mae said...

Da Seizure Monster sucks!
Mom and me is sending extra luv and prayers to Mango.

Woofs and Licks,
Maggie Mae

Ina in Alaska said...

So sorry the seizure monster has made another call. I watched some of the video. One of my late poodles, Suzie, came with epilepsy when we adopted her. She suffered her entire 14 years. She was on phenobarb full time and it helped greatly but from time to time the seizures would return. so heartbreaking when they happen.

Hugs to Mango Man, oh yeah!! xo

Jed and Abby in MerryLand said...

Mango, we're so sorry the Seizure Monster returned, but glad you were fine the next day. It's been asked, but are you on any meds?

Mama's only experience with the Seizure Monster was a Dane-Lab mix who developed seizures [the vet said epilepsy] when he was about 8 years old. But his could come at any time, day or night, and sometimes he'd have more than one at a time. And he had more attacks start when he was awake than when he was sleeping, so he gave off clear advance signals the other dogs alerted to immediately. He went on phenobarbitol, which helped decrease the severity and frequency but did not eliminate the seizures. He did live to about 10 years, which is a fairly good age for a male Dane. Although as he had Lab DNA too, maybe he would have made it to 12 or 13 without the epilepsy. One never knows.

Anyway, we hope the seizures go away, and if not that, then that they remain mild and far apart.

Jed & Abby

Peppy Sheppys said...


We do not like this seizure monster nonsense and we'd like to have a word with him. With our teeth. We hope he STAYS AWAY.

You do look most wonderful MangoMan. But please do be careful, you appear to have a pea stuck in your undercarriage.

Otis, et al.

PS. Please be extra nice to your mangomomma who takes extra good care of you.

K9 + Grace said...

That dumbo monster! I will beat him up for you when he comes to visit me next time!! I haven't had on e in a while now, thank God. I will keep my paws crossed for you, Mango.


Khyra And Sometimes Her Mom said...

Dear Mango -

So where exakhtly did woo and The Master go on that walk Thursday afternoon?

SERIOUSLY, I know Mango Momma's mentals get soooooo drained when woo get like this -

I mean, Pea is enough to drain mentals without your khontribution -

Paws khrossed I khan lure the evil monster away with my FT!


Sally Ann and Andy said...

Oh no Mango,
That is terrible. I hope he does not return.
Sally Ann

Frankie Furter said...

Mango Buddy... this is sad news indeed. I thought we had put our vibes together and chased the monster away furever.
I am very much sorry that your momma is so upset and worried. She did such a good thingy by taking care of you.
I'll send BOTH of you some of my strongest VIBES>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Stay away from my furend you evil monster. BAH

Sue said...

We've only had one seizure experience and it was certainly scary. I hope my pups never experience another. We hop you and Mom won't have to go thru it again either.

Erika and Blair,xoxo said...

What is it about you that the seizure monster likes so much? Perhaps next time you shouldn't be so welcoming when he comes knocking? Next time he comes just send him over to my Moms house. My uncles are pretty scary if i do say so myself!

Deborah said...

That is horrible. Smokes has seizures every now and then and they are very scary to watch. He will be dazed for a little while and then fine. Just tired. My vet said no medicine unless he has them every week, we are lucky that he doesn't. Smokes is our Husky.
Have a nice weekend.

Laura, Lance, and Vito said...

I am so so sorry that you had to go through another seizure with Mango. I pray that you and your vet are able to come up with something to help Mango soon.

Sugar the Golden Retriever said...

Woof! Woof! Totally understand how you feel. It was hard to watch the video. Sending Lots of Golden LOVE n crossing my Golden paws ... for the monster to be gone n never bother Mango. Lots of Golden Woofs, Sugar

Lola and also Franklin, too said...

I'm so sorry that there's been another visit from the Seizure Monster. I would not be able to watch that video, I don't think, but it must be so much worse for Mango Mom having to live through them. I'm glad Mango is feeling OK now and hope that continues for a long, long time without further interruption.

CreekHiker / HollysFolly said...

Oh Mango, we are so worried about you! I wish they could give you something for those monsters! You take care!!

Lorenza said...

I have some bady words for Monster Seizure! Hmmmm...
I am glad you did not remember any of that episode, Mango!
I hope there will not be another one!
Take care
Kisses and hugs

sagechronicles said...

Oooooh, Mom doesn't like those seizure monsters either. We are sending you good vibes so the bad vibes stay away!!

Those Elgin Pugs said...

Sweet Mango Momma~
Mango's twinner is thinking of him right now and these seizure monsters must stop-
We send all our love, thoughts and prayers to your big giant pug boy~

Anakin also wants to say something~

big me's -
me tinking you get some cuddles wits yous Momma and feel betters -
Yous big adventures me sure will be nice too and me sure yous feel better-
Yous must -
we's go cruisin' in yous Mastiff Mobil when it gets warmer outs-
me even shares some peanutty butters wits yous-
Mini Mastiff Manly hugs,
Anakin Man,
and IzZY (hi) Josie
TriXie (howdy) and pugga Momma

Team Beaglebratz said...

Shiloh here - I only ever had the Seizure Monster vizit me one time butt that wuz one time tu many - that wuz when I wuz outside so I remember it tu well - so duz mom. My dogtor sed it wuz likely du tu sumthi'I ate an'mom no'z what it may haf bin so makez shur I don't eat no more hotdogs. We at Team Beaglebratz shur du hope u an'your mom iz feelin'better now an'we all hope an'pray that the Seizure Monster goez way far away an'NEVER comez bak.

By the way, if your mom sez it iz ok fer u tu du - I iz hafin'a barkday pawtee tumorrow - SATURDAY, 3/26 - The PawsBang Band will b there an'there iza CSN give-away - all u haz tu du tu enter iz leave a comment BUTT the more comments u leave then u haz a better chance to win. BUTT if your mom sez u need tu stay home an'rest after the S.M. bothered u then u need tu listen tr her.

Holly and Khady said...

We know exactly what it's like. Our Abby has seizures too, although she has not had one for a very long time. She takes Potassium Bromide to help control hers, and it works wonderfully. My friend Kelsey also take it, plus phenobarbitol cuz his are a little stronger and need more meds. They really help him too.

It's very hard for the humans to watch, but a good thing you have no idea what is going on. I guess being hot wired wrong has it's advantages in some ways!

Thinking of you big buddy!


Holly and Khady said...

Oh, and a cold, wet washcloth placed on their bellies can help bring them out of it faster too since they have a tendency to over heat during an episode.


dewdana said...

It is all so upsetting I am not sure I can even bear to picture it. Lucas' little mini seizure that I told you about was nothing like you describe and not my dog of 6 years so I can only imagine how upsetting it is for all of you. I hope they will stop as mysteriously as they started :-(

Kris said...

oh my! what a bad episode you, master, pea and mango momma must had going through ... i hope you are on mend ... God Bless you all in this hardest and though moment you had ...

good healing thoughts !

K9 + Grace said...

Hi Mango, may I use your picture on a badge I am making?


Carol from Down Under said...

Hi Mango, that blasted seizure monster. He is a obviously a coward, only daring to visit while you are sleeping. Take care big fella. Mango Momma, we send you love and hugs. Love Carol x x

The Life of Riley said...

Hi Mango,
I'm sorry your monster came back. Even though you didn't see him it must have been scary for your family. I suggest you keep practicing those bity faces and scare that horrible monster away for good.


Maggie and Mitch said...

We are so sad to hear this, Mango. We wish that stoopid seizure monster would go away and leave you alone!

Love ya lots
Maggie and Mitch

violett said...

Poor Mango!
I would love to help you ... Good thing you sleep deeply and do not notice the monster. We do not need such a monster. Maybe your video will help the dogdoc with a new therapy. We express all paws and thumb
Lots of love
Your friend Mischka

Mack said...

Mom has a friend who's doggy has seizures and she gives him phenobarbital and it works like a charm. We HATE this evil monster who refuses to leave you ALONE!


MAXMOM IN SA said...

Dear Mango-momma...
We are really thinking about you guys, and sending you warm healing wishes. It's such a difficult thing to manage. We hope that this will simply disappear and that Mango will be back to his best. You are quite amazing in your ability to keep his voice positive.
Sending lotaluv and good vibes.

road-dog-tales said...

Oh gosh, Mango, we're so sorry to hear that you had an episode! Those can be super scary - especially for the humans. We totally get why your Mom would sleep by your side. Hey, you know, if she wants to keep an eye on you all the time, she can just let you sleep in the BED! Looks like you totally recovered and are back to your usual Mango self! Yay!

The Road Dogs

ArtemisiaFSS said...

How scary for you Mango's Mom. Your description is scary enough for us, we don't thinks we has the courage to watch a movie of it. Poor Mango. We are sending healing purrs and Fenris is sending his best growls to keep the seizure monster away.

We are happy that Mango feels OK today.

Priscilla said...

Dear Mango, I'm so sorry to hear about the return of the seizure monster but I'm so glad that you're okay now. Your mom did a great job of calming you down and helping you get to sleep, she's a brave momma.
I hope the monster will just simply disappear and never come back again. Our paws and fingers are crossed tightly for you!

Clive said...

Mango, we are so sorry to hear that you had another seizure again. That is really awful for your Momma and you!

We hope you're having a good day today and sending you lots of good wishes ...

Murray and Clive

Heather and Pumpkin said...

Oh Mango, I'm so sorry to hear the monster came back. You are just going to have to convince your mommy to sleep with you on the couch every night.


Reilly / Bree said...

Bad bad seizure monster - why isn't Dexter chasing it away before it gets you Mango??? Thank goodness you have a wonderful Momma - it is so good to know she is there - even if you don't remember

FiveSibesMom said...

I am so sorry Mango was visited by that notorious Seizure Monster again. You know my heart goes out to him as we have chatted about my Gibson being medicated for seizures. You are right - the blessing is they have no idea. I know those nights on the couch next to them...We just added thryoid meds to his Pheno/PB routine and may be able to lower his Pheno soon, we area waiting on a vet call today actually. That's a little worrisome since on one hand I hate to change what is working, but on the other, lowering Pheno and keeping his liver in good shape long range, is a huge plus. Day by day. May the Seizure Monster keep away...we are thinking of Mango!

Pepsi the Lazy Bum said...

The Seizure Monster really has to leave you alone! It's really awful for that evil thing to creep up on you without warning. I'm sending lots of vibes to you and growl to the Seizure Monster to stay away.


Agatha and Archie said...

Oh dear oh dear, We come out of hibernation to find you had another seizure..but the best thing is like your Mama said.. you don't remember it or know it... We are going back to WICKED crossing our legs and sending terrier vibes to get rid of this seizure dude FOREVER Love A+A PS what is with the return of winter??

Ettel, Charlie Poodle, and Emma Pitty said...

Oh no, Mango we're so sorry to hear you had another seizure.

Thankfully you felt great the next morning and didn't remember anything.

Hopefully your vet can help you fight the seizure monster!

The Boston Lady said...

To Mango and his wonderful Momma, I feel so bad that this has happened again, especially for Momma who is the one who is aware of it as it happens. If there is any comfort to be taken it is that Mango, you don't remember it happening and that in the morning you feel like your old self (quit picking on the Pea). This must be so frustrating and I'm sorry to have no insight into this at all. Ann

Molly, Taffy, Monty and Winnie said...

Oh Mango we are so sorry you had another of these horrid seizures. We are pleased you are recovered and hope the monster leaves you alone now.

Molly, Taffy, Monty and Winnie

Miss Darcy said...

Oh no mango! Get well soon.


Oskar said...

Oh man, I wish I could come and chase him away for you. He'd never stand up to a terrier thrashing!

Nubbin wiggles & hugs,

Amber DaWeenie said...

Seizures are very scary to watch. April is epileptic but fortunately all her seizures were mild except for one about 2 years ago. She has been seizure-free for about a year now and takes Phenobarbital. But just knowing it's out there and can happen at any time doesn't leave a very warm and fuzzy feeling.

Keep those nasty things away, Mango!

Asta said...

I do hope it was just youw Mama's phantasy and it wasn't the seezoowe monstew..I am going to come scawe it away even if I have to walk all the way to youw house and bawk incessantly to keep him away.

Thnk dog that you awe feeling happy and fine today I hope youw mama will calm down too and feel bettew! I wouldn't let mommi watch. she is too easily upset and teawy

paws cwossed my sweet welentlessly hooge fwiend
smoochie kisses

Stella, Gunther and Macaroni said...

I can't express enough how much I understand what you're going through. I can't bring myself to click on the movie b/c I've seen Betty have enough of them. Through all my research, I've learned that seizures can sometimes occur more during seasonal changes. Since we just started day light savings time, perhaps that was a trigger for Mango.

Please give Mango many healing kisses and hugs for me.

Shannon and the Smushies

Raymond and Busby said...

Wow, we were really hoping the seizure monster had moved on forever. Rats! We hope this is the last one for a long long time. Purrs to all of you at the estate. xoxo

Anonymous said...

Ah Nuts! Stupid seizure monster! Arrrrrggggg! So glad Mango woke up feeling like himself :)

Wish I knew how to slay that nasty creature >:S


houndstooth said...

I don't know how I missed this! When I started watching and recording Treat's seizures, I found that they happened about every three weeks, like clockwork. I'd heard that phenobarbital can be hard on the liver and a lot of other bad things about it, but we tried potassium bromide, and it wasn't doing anything for her. Finally, I came to the conclusion that even if her life turned out to be shorter because of the toll on her liver, at least she would have a quality life while she lived. As it turns out, the phenobarbital did the trick for her and she never had another one once it got "loaded" into her system. I know that a lot of people have heard bad things about the medicine, but we didn't ever have a problem with it. Treat died from something that had no relation to her seizures or the meds, and a lot of people give their dogs milk thistle to help cleanse the liver and not have to worry so much about it messing up their health. It was so worth it for us to use it! It bought me peace of mind, and Treat did beautifully on it.

Bunny's mom

houndstooth said...

I don't know how I missed this! When I started watching and recording Treat's seizures, I found that they happened about every three weeks, like clockwork. I'd heard that phenobarbital can be hard on the liver and a lot of other bad things about it, but we tried potassium bromide, and it wasn't doing anything for her. Finally, I came to the conclusion that even if her life turned out to be shorter because of the toll on her liver, at least she would have a quality life while she lived. As it turns out, the phenobarbital did the trick for her and she never had another one once it got "loaded" into her system. I know that a lot of people have heard bad things about the medicine, but we didn't ever have a problem with it. Treat died from something that had no relation to her seizures or the meds, and a lot of people give their dogs milk thistle to help cleanse the liver and not have to worry so much about it messing up their health. It was so worth it for us to use it! It bought me peace of mind, and Treat did beautifully on it.

Bunny's mom

brooke said...

poor mango! and poor momma! how stressful it must be for her!
I hope this seizure monster keeps itself under control!
We're keeping you in our thoughts!

achieve1dream said...

Poor Mango! That much be so distressing for you. Watching that video made me want to cry. It's so sad. I'm glad he's okay. Have you talked to the vet about medication or has he not had enough to get on it? I hope the monster is gone for a long time.

Ms. ~K said...

I have never witnessed a doggie seizure, but can imagine the horror of having to stand by helplessly.
Sending you and Mango hugs,

jen said...

I'm so sorry to read that the seizure monster stopped by and visited Mango again. It breaks my heart to imagine him having a seizure.
Glad to hear that he is recovering good.

The Heartbeats said...

Mango man we are thinking good thoughts for you. Mamma likes to hear my breathing too. Weird women! Hope seizure monster stays away for a long time. Seizures are apparently common for boxers so Mamma is very afraid of them!


Tucker said...

Mango I really wish the horrible monster would go away. How scary this must be for your Momma, Dexter, Master and yourself. Get better soon buddy.

woof - Tucker

Kari in WeHo said...



KB said...

I once had a Lab who had visits from the seizure monster. It started when he was about 4 years old. He had a few grand mals, and then we got his medication dialed to the right level. After that, he had petite mals for about 5 years or so, only once every couple of months. Finally, the little seizures went away for an entire year... so we took the plunge and stopped the meds. Believe it or not, he lived to be 16 years old and never had another seizure except extremely minor "vacant" moments.

One key thing in the whole process of getting rid of the seizures was that we realized that tennis balls were the most frequent trigger. We eliminated all tennis balls from our labrador's life, and that made a huge difference. Obviously, that doesn't apply to Mango. And, poor Dexter might not be able to handle it.

I so fervently hope that Mango's seizures can be controlled like our labrador's seizures were controlled. I know how scary they are... so I can imagine how upsetting it is for you.

I'm sending my meanest vibes to that terrible seizure monster, telling him to stay away from Mango.

LucilleMia said...

Oh my dear Mango...
I am so sad you were visited by the monster again...
I am happy to learn that you do not remember them, this is good.
On the other side I hope your mum understands what is causing it...
Truly hope that with some pills and a bit of luck to identify what is triggering the monster will make it go away...
Must be really hard for all of you...
I have no idea on how to help you... Don't know of anything that could help with the bad monster... Wish I could be of more help...
Ciao Lucille

the booker man said...


me and asa and mama are so sorry that we missed this postie! we hate that stoopid icky seizure monster more than anythingie, and we are sad that it came back to visit you last thursday night! GRRRRR. we will try to send even bigger stink eyes and growls to mr. seizure monster cuz we want him to stay away and nevarrr come back!! we are glad that you felt a-okay and didn't remember any of it when you woke up on friday, though.

the booker man

Two Pugs in a Pod said...

Oh my goodness! I am so sorry you guys are dealing with this. Scary scary SCARY! I hope Mango is feeling 100%. He is such a BEAUTIFUL boy. I hope the Monster never visits you again, sweetheart!